Comments on: Finding a Prototype Inspiration http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/ A hobby journey with Eric Hansmann. Sun, 01 Aug 2010 06:17:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: admin http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-54 admin Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:11:50 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-54 Thanks for the additional details Chris. I have been around the Newburgh area a couple of times and it is still rife with rails and traffic. Of course, there is just a fraction of the activity there once was. Much of the Erie facilities are gone, but the main line seems to be intact. The PRR (C&P line) is heavily used, but much of their old yard near the Erie is also gone. The Newburgh & South Shore no longer crosses the PRR to join with the Erie line and the W&LE ends on the east side of the PRR line. Much of the W&LE west of the PRR crossing is now a paved bike and walking path. The Cleveland Short Line of the NYC sees a lot of daily traffic as some is routed to and from the PRR C&P line at a connection just south of Newburgh. The maps at these links are very interesting. Thanks for sending these. It is amazing how much remains to be discovered on the web. - Eric Thanks for the additional details Chris. I have been around the Newburgh area a couple of times and it is still rife with rails and traffic. Of course, there is just a fraction of the activity there once was.

Much of the Erie facilities are gone, but the main line seems to be intact. The PRR (C&P line) is heavily used, but much of their old yard near the Erie is also gone. The Newburgh & South Shore no longer crosses the PRR to join with the Erie line and the W&LE ends on the east side of the PRR line. Much of the W&LE west of the PRR crossing is now a paved bike and walking path. The Cleveland Short Line of the NYC sees a lot of daily traffic as some is routed to and from the PRR C&P line at a connection just south of Newburgh.

The maps at these links are very interesting. Thanks for sending these. It is amazing how much remains to be discovered on the web.

- Eric

]]> By: Chris http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-52 Chris Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:10:01 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-52 Here are some Erie drawings on the area your talking about that you might find a use for (various years): http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/86-7837-2.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/D-16-3.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/2-11837-2.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/2517.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/5037a18s2.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/76A-14814.gif http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/nss800.gif Here are some Erie drawings on the area your talking about that you might find a use for (various years):

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/86-7837-2.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/D-16-3.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/2-11837-2.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/2517.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/5037a18s2.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/76A-14814.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/dwg/nss800.gif

]]> By: Chris http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-51 Chris Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:48:47 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-51 Eric, They are from an issue of "The Diamond" from the ELHS. I model the Erie in N scale. I was at the Newburgh turntable once and didn't even know how close I was to the Erie. Oh well probably not much left there now. Chris Eric,
They are from an issue of “The Diamond” from the ELHS. I model the Erie in N scale. I was at the Newburgh turntable once and didn’t even know how close I was to the Erie. Oh well probably not much left there now.

Chris

]]> By: admin http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-44 admin Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:45:52 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-44 <p>Nice maps Chris. Lots of interesting detail, including the depth of the Cuyahoga! Are these from an old Erie book? </p> <p>The area I'm focussed on is more east of the Cuyahoga valley. The Erie also skirted Newburgh and paralleled the W&LE around East 93rd Street.</p> - Eric Nice maps Chris. Lots of interesting detail, including the depth of the Cuyahoga! Are these from an old Erie book?

The area I’m focussed on is more east of the Cuyahoga valley. The Erie also skirted Newburgh and paralleled the W&LE around East 93rd Street.

- Eric

]]> By: Chris http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-43 Chris Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:45:44 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-43 Eric, These Cleveland maps from 1946 may be of interest to you: http://chris333.fileave.com/Cleveland%20map%20left.jpg http://chris333.fileave.com/Cleveland%20map%20right.jpg Chris Eric,
These Cleveland maps from 1946 may be of interest to you:
http://chris333.fileave.com/Cleveland%20map%20left.jpg
http://chris333.fileave.com/Cleveland%20map%20right.jpg

Chris

]]> By: admin http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-19 admin Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:07:43 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-19 Frank - I'm not sure if I was clear, but all three railroads cross at grade. An interlocking tower controlled tthe crossing and approaches on all three railroads. The N&SS and PRR did cross several city streets on bridges, so a few will be featured on the layout. These will bear little resemblence to the large bridge structures in my old stomping grounds of West Virginia. - Eric Frank - I’m not sure if I was clear, but all three railroads cross at grade. An interlocking tower controlled tthe crossing and approaches on all three railroads. The N&SS and PRR did cross several city streets on bridges, so a few will be featured on the layout. These will bear little resemblence to the large bridge structures in my old stomping grounds of West Virginia.

- Eric

]]> By: Frank Benders http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-16 Frank Benders Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:39:18 +0000 http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2009/07/02/finding-a-prototype-inspiration/#comment-16 Looks like you will need a lot of bridge kits. Looks like you will need a lot of bridge kits.

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